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Friday, February 12, 2010

Rookies 140, Sophomores 128

















First of all, congratulations Tyreke Evans. Well deserved. Without looking at the stat sheet he was the best player on the floor tonight, easily. He was efficient as hell, set the tempo of the game, and was unstoppable when he wanted to be. He got to the rim at will and always made the shot that stopped the Sophomore's run. His game went well beyond his numbers.

Disregard all statistics this game, none meant a thing.

Westbrook put up a lot of points, but man this guy shot 29 times compared to Evans' 15. He refused to get his teammates involved. Most selfish play from a PG I've seen in a while. I wont take too much away from Westbrook, he was the fastest player on the floor end to end and he got himself some easy layups. But you've gotta give the f*cking ball up once in a while. Oh and he took 8 3s, hit 2.

OJ Mayo 0-5 3pt shooting. He reminded me a lot of Stephon Marbury. Had 10 assists, set guys up well but really just took his team outta the game at times because the defense left him wide open and he couldn't hit the open shot.

Now down to Michael... He did a lot of things that you don't see him do on the Heat. Like taking it himself to the basket from the 3 pt line and he even took the ball coast to coast a few times for the easy hoops. Maybe it was the lack of defense I dunno. But he looked great in the full court. He'd do well on a more fast paced running team. I think the Heat's refusal to run is a mistake with players like Wade, Wright, and Beasley.

Sophomores badly needed Rose this game. We coulda used a PG with half a brain and I'm not saying this as a compliment to Rose. Our guards this game were that selfish and retarded.

Blair with a 20-20. LoL. Good job Love and Lopez.

Sorry about poor grammar and lack of detail. Just too pissed and disgusted with how the Sophomore guards played tonight.

139 comments:

  1. I didn't see Michael attempt to take one charge. Has he learned nothing?

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  2. I hope Spo doesn't use this game as an excuse to start Haslem again. "You couldn't even beat a team of rookies?!?!?". I must say Beasley did things I've never seen him do before with the Heat. Things I didn't even know he was capable of. He didn't really even have his best game either. He was pretty inefficient with 26 pts on 25 shots. But damn he proved a lot to me this game. He really has it all.

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  3. Beasley has a great all-around game, which is why I hate to see him settle for jumpers. He has the ability to keep pretty much anyone off balance in trying to guard him. We should do more to exploit that advantage; need to be more aggressive in our offensive scheme.

    That game wasn't nearly as entertaining as previous years. Westbrook's gunning wore thin at some point.

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  4. Agree for the most part. Harsh critique of Westbrook, lol. Durant probably told him to go score 40.

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  5. how many finger rolls did dude have???? those points shouldn't even count, it was a joke.

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  6. The thing that drove me nuts today about Bease still no post ups.

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  7. leo

    he can't post up. he just doesn't know how. if that's an element he can add to his game over the summer, than he can become damn near unstoppable on offense early on.

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  8. Somewhere in Dallas, Westbrook is still chucking.

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  9. KBBoy don't you think you were a bit critical of Beasley?

    j/k but there were a lot of things to dislike that you failed to mention.

    And Westbrook was the man. Why stop shooting when the other team's defense can't stop you? This game isn't even close if Westbrook didn't drop 40.

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  10. And Westbrook was the man. Why stop shooting when the other team's defense can't stop you?

    FEBRUARY 13, 2010 12:55 AM

    I could see why people would see it that way. And yes there was a lot to not like about the way Beasley played as well. I was definitely only isolating the good parts because this is after all a Heat blog. He settled for the perimeter game far too often which resulted in a rather unimpressive TS%, but the guards on the sophomore team clearly had no intention of getting interior players involved. So I could understand why Beasley would want to play more of a slasher role. But as I said before he didn't have one of his better games.

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  11. Chris, I dunno meng. I just saw Beasley settling for jumpers and looking for his shot. In the second half he was more active in other areas, but the jumpers weren't falling (although there were more layups and closer shots at the rim).

    I guess Beasley just loves his jumper and that's something we have to accept.

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  12. Like I said before, I don't disagree for this particular game. But the reason he played like that is because his guards were not setting up players at all, and I don't just mean Beasley. He had to get the ball at the top and take it himself. He's simply not capable of being very efficient playing such a role.

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  13. ira ignores this game to say that wade said noting in his press conference. wow. great reporting.

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  14. first time poster long time reader.

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  15. steve kerr gave shaq to cavs for nothing and is he now going to give amare to them for nothing also. why can't he give amare to us for haslem and q-rich.

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  16. memphis might be interested in dorell for rudy gay. if they have no intention of paying gay, that could be interested in dorells potential. what do you guys think? possible?

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  17. not possible.

    rookies had a ton of quick pt guards (so the writeups go). will Riley realize that this is where the game is heading and that arroyo/rafer/CHALMERS do not cut it, will not cut it???

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  18. Butler, Haywood, Stevenson to Mavs for Howard, Gooden, and crap.

    Riley is waiting for 2010.

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  19. riley is getting very nervous.

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  20. pat riley, do you even know what your'e doing?

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  21. I guess no one has seen this yet..Riley maybe a genius. Man I hope so.

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64670/20100213/agent_sees_bosh_going_to_miami/

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  22. I dunno, didn't really take much from this game at all. The sophomores completely forgot the had the biggest guys on the court and got caught trying to run with the rooks. Beasley wasn't spectacular, Westbrook did his best AI of old impression, Tyreke Evans showed why he's the ROY, Jennings had some moments too, but to me Dejaun Blair is a beast 20-20 in an All-star game that's very impressive. I don't know how the Spurs do it year after year and Riley has bearly done it once every 5 years. DRAFT REAL TALENT!!!!!!!!!

    The Mavs/Wizards deal is about as bad as the Lakers/Grizzlies deal. What in the hell is Riley doing? Your telling me he couldn't entice Cuban to take the Dirk Stopper and some spare parts or convince the Wizards that Haslem's purity would go perfect alongside Jamison's veteran leadership to help change the way the Wizards are perceived in DC.

    Seriously though, I think we could've put a similar package together to get either Josh Howard or Caron Butler(The Prodical Son). Man I know Wade's probably pissed and already is asking Derrick Rose are the Chicago winter's still really bitter cold. I hope Riley got some under the table deals Minnesota McHale style already in the works, because 2010 is Fool's Gold, especially with the new collective bargaining agreement looking like the owners are trying to restructure the entire contract status of the NBA. Basically shorter deals and less money in 2011, that may be just enough to keep a lot of the big names in their respective places this summer!!!

    AND FOR THE TRILLIONTH TIME I HOPE WE DON'T TRADE YOUNG AMARE FOR OLD BROKEN DOWN AMARE!!!!!!

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  23. Mike Wallace (best Heat beat writer) :

    "The most intriguing development in the game for Beasley came when he was forced to put on his right knee brace midway through the game after he opened the game without wearing it. Beasley said before the game that he felt he no longer needed the brace after he hyperextended his right knee in a Jan. 27 loss at Toronto.

    Without the brace, Beasley was a high-flying, dunking, running, free-spirited player out there. But when he was told to put the brace back on, his game changed to more of a jump-shooting display. In either case, 26 points seemed to come rather easy for Beasley."

    No wonder why Beas has been struggling lately..

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  24. And lol@ the guy who told him to put it back on midway through that particular game.

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  25. the wizards dallas deal isn't that one sided. wizards are just blowing it up. next jamison will be gone for an expiring. i don't think riley was interested in butler/haywood. i really hope the cavs don't get amare. that would be the end of that. the cavs would have the 3 baddest beasts in the NBA with shaq, stat and lebron. i still would like us to get amare but no way in hell for beasley. so it might be iguodala/dalembert instead or dorell for rudy gay.

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  26. i don't see why rudy gay for dorell isn't plausible. their contracts virtually match. dorell has the potential to become 75% gay.

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  27. Tyler, I think it has more to do with Memphis hoping Gay gives them a hometown discount in the offseason. Other than that, maybe they could see making a sign-and-trade and getting some picks with a cheaper talent. If they were a bit further from playoff contention, they might jump on something. There's no need for them to move now. Odds are they can get something better than or comparable to Dorell later on.

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  28. Back to Westbrook, the problem wasn't necessarily that he kept taking shots; it's that it was done in a shoddy, non-entertaining fashion. It was just boring layup after boring layup, taking advantage of the fact that there was no interior defense. Throw in a crossover, or a double clutch layup. Some 3's. Do something other than glorified cherry-picking. Look at the way Durant got 46 last year. That's how you go about scoring in droves in an exhibition. Westbrook should have had tomatoes thrown at him.

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  29. Westbrook was selfish as hell. His points were yes, mainly off lack of defense. Anyone could have put up the points he did if they took it themselves every play from one end to the other. No one had any intention of running back.

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  30. "ruise said...
    And lol@ the guy who told him to put it back on midway through that particular game.

    FEBRUARY 13, 2010 10:55 AM "

    Who was it? Spoelstra? Haslem?

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  31. No it was probably Riley. You can't trade a guy who's on the IR list....LMAO!!!!!!

    FOR THE TRILLIONTH TIME I HOPE WE DON'T TRADE YOUNG AMARE WITH POTENTIAL TO BE BETTER THAN ANY AMARE YOU COULD THINK OF AND IS AT LEAST TRYING TO PLAY D#, FOR OLD BROKEN DOWN AMARE MAKING $17 MILLION A YEAR AND STILL DOESN'T PLAY D#!!!!!!

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  32. "TylerD said... i don't see why rudy gay for dorell isn't plausible. their contracts virtually match. dorell has the potential to become 75% gay."

    Lol, too easy

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  33. Dorrel might become 75% Gay but he'll never be as good as the full Gay version.

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  34. I seriously want to know who told Mike to put the brace back on

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  35. I dunno...Wright has handles and can play point forward. Gay? Who knows?

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  36. LOL, please don't even act like Wright is even close to as good as Rudy Gay.

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  37. Gay is about twenty eight billion times better than Wright.

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  38. Looks like the Amare sweepstakes are between Cleveland and Miami. If we are indeed offering Beasley and draft picks I don't see how Cleveland can offer anything better. Expect to see Amare in a Heat uniform by Thursday. If Beasley is traded Riley better make another move now or in the summer to add another all star to make up for it. If he can then we will have a championship core in place for the next 6 years.

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  39. 6 years? LOL

    Our core will be 2 all stars that have been injured for a majority of their careers.

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  40. Well he also mentioned adding another all star in the summer. I'm not a big fan of Amare. If you get Amare you will need to get other players since you'd have only one player on the team who can create for himself and others.

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  41. I will hate this franchise if they trade Beasley.

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  42. Adam said...
    I will hate this franchise if they trade Beasley.

    FEBRUARY 13, 2010 1:56 PM
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    Me too.....

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  43. So nobody thinks Mickey Arison sitting front row means anything?

    To me it says Michael we value you, and we want you on our team.

    I dont think a trade is made, which is probably why the Suns are dealing with Cavs now.

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  44. WOW! Cleveland ASKING LeBron what trade he wants them to make.

    http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64672/20100213/cavs_ask_lebron_which_trade_scenario_he_prefers/

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  45. jrod44 said...
    So nobody thinks Mickey Arison sitting front row means anything?

    FEBRUARY 13, 2010 3:15 PM

    It means he's a basketball fan and has a lot of money and time and can afford to go to these types of events.

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  46. Looks like it comes down to what offer Phoenix will take.

    1. Amare for Hickson/Illgauskus and a first round pick or
    2. Amare for Beasley/Qrich and a first round pick

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  47. It means he's a basketball fan and has a lot of money and time and can afford to go to these types of events.

    February 13, 2010 4:19 PM

    No doubt, and he took his son to it. But umm... Are you really front row to see the guy you are going to trade in a few days? Maybe but thats kind of cold, no?

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  48. Grades by Tim Legler

    Beasley tried to turn the game into his personal showcase, and he had some memorable poster shots, but he was oblivious to anyone else on the court. His shots per touch set a Rookie Challenge record, and he simply forced too many shots to impress me.
    C-

    He will be playing in the varsity game on Sundays maybe as early as next season. He had an opportunity to show his scoring ability without having to worry about feeding a certain MVP candidate (Kevin Durant) as he does every night during the season. This guy has the whole package.
    A+

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  49. Stoudemire’s pick for the perfect starting lineup of today’s players: Dwight Howard, Tim Duncan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash.

    Stoudemire’s pick for the perfect lineup alongside him with all-time players in their primes: Shaquille O’neal, LeBron James, Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson.

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  50. about 9 hours ago on iras blog, i mentioned that i posted on kbboy80's blog for the first time. doctorb asked me for the link to this blog, but when i tried to post it, it wouldn't let me post it. only when i left off the "htpp://" part, then it let me post "irasfollowers.blogspot.com" . i was just looking at the blog, and all those posts about me talking about this blog, about doc asking for the link, my post of 'irasfollowers.blogspot.com' have all been DELETED. like it never happened. that's interesting. whatever happened to free speech?

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  51. Laker nation is ridiculous. Either Shaq or Tim Duncan should be winning player of the decade. Kobe should not have 57% of the vote with no close 2nd. Yes, he's been great, but he hasn't owned like Shaq or Duncan have.

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  52. this is starting to get depressing now. first we don't get caron/haywood, and now it looks like we aren't getting amare, although no way in hell i wanted amare for beasley, but not only is lebron not coming to miami, but his team (if the do get amare), is going to be an unstoppable contender for the next 5 years. the cavs are on a 13 game winning streak, and most of those wins without mo and delonte. they have bitch slapped the lakers 2 times, just bitch slapped orlando on thursday, and don't look like they are ever going to lose another game if they get amare. if the cavs win the championship this year, they should send their championship trophy to steve kerr. he gave them shaq for nothing, and is now looking like giving them amare for nothing. are steve kerr and danny ferry cousins?

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  53. GodsSon521 said...

    Laker nation is ridiculous. Either Shaq or Tim Duncan should be winning player of the decade. Kobe should not have 57% of the vote with no close 2nd. Yes, he's been great, but he hasn't owned like Shaq or Duncan have.
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    At least we know who the most overrated player is. Shaq or Duncan should win it hands down. Those guys were BEASTS in their prime.

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  54. Listen to Ira defend Cap'n Gritzzz Hustle'm.....LMOA!!!!!

    Q: Beasley’s confidence has been shattered by Spoelstra and Udonis. We might as well trade him now, because he will never reach his potential as a Miami Heat player. — Donny.

    A: Whoa. Say what you want about Erik, but Udonis has gone out of his way to work with the kid. If you get the opportunity at a home game, watch how Udonis interacts with Michael almost every time before Beasley returns to the court. No, Udonis is not an impediment, he is a booster.

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    The Heat need to trade Haslem, Spo, Riley and Ira, but they probably wouldn't get much back. Riley would be the most valuable chip. Riley for Sam Presti(OKC), Spo for SVG(The better pupil of Riley), Haslem and other expirings we've got for T-MAC, Ira for DA AKA David Aldridge at least he reports stuff before ESPN ticker has rolled it at the bottom of the TV for like 5 hours. But like Riley, I guess I'm living in a fantasy world of 2010!!!!!!!

    Package $23 Million worth of expirings for T-Mac and we'll be fine for the rest of this season.... He's been getting in shape with Wade's boy Tim Grover for like 2+months now, he's gotta be better than Q and at least as good as D-Wright.... Everybody's forgot about T-MAC!!!!!!!

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  55. TylerD said...

    about 9 hours ago on iras blog, i mentioned that i posted on kbboy80's blog for the first time. doctorb asked me for the link to this blog, but when i tried to post it, it wouldn't let me post it. only when i left off the "htpp://" part, then it let me post "irasfollowers.blogspot.com" . i was just looking at the blog, and all those posts about me talking about this blog, about doc asking for the link, my post of 'irasfollowers.blogspot.com' have all been DELETED. like it never happened. that's interesting. whatever happened to free speech?
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    Too bad they won't do nothing to institute accounts and ban people who abuse their blog.

    BTW, you guys can try to use TinyURL.com to hide the links.

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  56. d_webz reprezentin da 215!!! #3 N #30 #1 FAN said...

    The Heat need to trade Haslem, Spo, Riley and Ira, but they probably wouldn't get much back.
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    I think it'd be easier to trade Beasley and get Amare back. ;-)

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  57. I won't trade Beasley on the fact that Kerr is trying to pull a fast one on Riley by entertaining JJ Hickson + 1st rounder. Like Riley is gonna bite on the thought of Kerr trading Amare for peanuts. Might as well trade him to Miami for Dorell Wright (which btw he would thrive in Phoenix).

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  58. Yeah Wright would be fantastic with Nash.

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  59. Arghhhh : http://i49.tinypic.com/2v1xky9.png

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  60. Phoenix jerseys are ugly. That's one reason for Beasley to not want to go ther.e

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  61. these dunks suck, some of them are pretty bland, like g wallace's

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  62. anyone got a link to where you can see the rooki-soph game? any more comments about how Beas looked?

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  63. man this all star weekend has sucked so far.

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  64. helium said...

    anyone got a link to where you can see the rooki-soph game? any more comments about how Beas looked?

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    Do you want to know the truth on how Beas looked or do you just want us to say "he got his 26 points and looked great" ?

    If you want the truth, go the RGM Gen NBA thread for the Rookie-Sophmore game and have a look around: http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=985942&start=375

    Or if you prefer, "Beasley scored 26 points and looked great"

    Blue pill or Red pill?

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  65. I-Win, I don't think anyone who watched the game on here disagrees with you(although some would say its just the nature of this competition). Beasley didn't have one of his better games. Just put it that way. How do you think people are going to respond when they read your post? C'mon man.

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  66. More proof that Wade doesn't like playing in the cold.

    For all the Bulls and Knicks fans.

    http://www.nba.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1002/allstar.practice/content.4.html

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  67. Guys, you all know that Ira fixed his blog, you no longer have to put in the anti-spam code.

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  68. Yeah, hey I don't like being in the cold either. But I gotta say, I'll take wearing a coat, scarf, and boots for 4 months a year any day over not living in NY.

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  69. thank goodness wade doesn't like cold weather.

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  70. found this article. it’s from 2007.

    The MIAMI HERALD counts up news that the holder of the NBA’s Heat has been ranked the wealthiest owner in the U.S. and 3rd-wealthiest in the world, according to a new list released by Forbes.Arison also runs Carnival Cruise Lines, which helps put his total net wealth at $5.8 billion. The only ones with more in the bank are a couple of soccer team securers – Chelsea controller Roman Abramovich ($18.7 billion) and AC Milan maestro Silvio Berlusconi ($11.8 billion).

    mark cuban is worth $2.6 billion, half of what mick arison is worth. mark cuban doesn’t care about luxury tax where as micky arison does. with what arison said about wanting to keep beasley would be purely from a financial perspective. he sees beasley as cheap labor. arison would have said to riley, we’re not paying bosh $17 million a year to do what beasley can do on $6 million a year next season and $8 million the season after that.

    http://sportsbybrooks.com/miami-heat-holder-3rd-richest-sports-owner-in-world-14956

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    now micky arison is worth $2.8 billion. mark cuban is now worth $2.3 billion. arison has lost about $3 billion and cuban has lost $300 million in the last 2 years. these figures are from 2009 Forbes rich list.

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/10/billionaires-2009-richest-people_The-Worlds-Billionaires_Rank.html

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  71. wizards only did the trade if dallas took deshawn stevenson off their hands too. thats the difference between cuban and arison. cuban will take any bad contract as long as he gets what he wants. mark cuban loves receiving his luxury tax bill in the mail. the higher the better.

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    In some ways, Cook had a night similar to that of teammate Michael Beasley in Friday’s Rookie Challenge — they both shot every time they touched the ball.
    - Ira


    has ira EVER said anything positive about beasley WITHOUT following it up with a cheap shot?

    the LUXURY of having haslem. what team would see having haselm as a luxury? maybe a WNBA team.

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  72. ^ a complaint about taking cheap shots then following it up with a cheap shot. Awesome.

    Anyway, apparently the Cavs and Suns are close on a deal that would send Amare to Cleveland for (get ready for this) JJ Hickson and Zyldrunis Ilgauskus.

    Link:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4913305

    I think Suns' fans will run Kerr and Sarver out of town if that deal goes down.

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  73. "TylerD: unless we can get gay for dorell "

    LMAO!To easy.

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  74. "TylerD: unless we can get gay for dorell "

    Sledge already has that taken care of

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  75. If the Cavs acquire Amare for Hickson and Illgauskas it will be the equivalent of the Gasol trade to LA. How can Phoenix be so stupid!

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  76. I dont get why they'd want to help Shaq and Amare win a title. Thats why I could see phoenix not doing it.

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  77. I hope Amare & Shaq has the same effect in Clev as it did in Pho: First rd bounce.

    So I guess one of the better defensive teams is giving up on Defense.

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  78. Kerr and Ferry are like BFFs, right?

    I think this trade would be a lot worse than the Gasol trade.

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  79. Pho trades Amare for Hickson because I think they know ANYBODY with a pulse can put up close to 20 and 8 in their system as the featured Big.

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  80. "I hope Amare & Shaq has the same effect in Clev as it did in Pho: First rd bounce."

    The Cavs have LeBron James and don't play in a retarded system.

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  81. Yeah. Let's hope not. If LeBron is able to make Hickson look like an All-Star, imagine what he could accomplish with Stat.. Scary, indeed.

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  82. I don't know....I think it would take 10-15 games before Amare starting complaining about touches and his gorilla game. They didn't work in Pho with the most unselfish player in the game feeding them both, why would it be any different with Lebron(who openly admits he can drop 50 every night, but dials it down a little for shyts and giggles). Too many guys wanting "touches" who are used to being the "man" in this league and then throw Moe Williams in there. There is such a thing as TOO MUCH offense.

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  83. Cruise said...

    Yeah. Let's hope not. If LeBron is able to make Hickson look like an All-Star, imagine what he could accomplish with Stat.. Scary, indeed.
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    When did Hickson looks like an allstar? 6ppg and 4rpg is an allstar?

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  84. If Phoenix makes the Cleveland trade they need to keep Big Z. I think Cleveland is including a first round pick too.

    Is Hickson better than Tyrus Thomas though? It seems like Chicago could make a better offer.

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  85. If they get Amare, they wont be able to do anything else ever again. They cant get any better at least.

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  86. Hopefully Phoenix is just bluffing because they are not able to get the Heat to give up Beasley.

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  87. "When did Hickson looks like an allstar? 6ppg and 4rpg is an allstar?"

    Against our Miami Heat. Lately, Orlando. A potential allstar if you prefer.

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  88. "If they get Amare, they wont be able to do anything else ever again. They cant get any better at least."

    Would they really need to?

    Mo-Will/LeBron
    Parker/West/LeBron
    LeBron
    Amare/Varejao/LeBron
    Shaq/Z (from buyout)

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  89. Lol. Phoenix fans are in shock right now. They're scared to death this trade gets completed.

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  90. That lineup has the feel of a 5 year dynasty. Very scary. Let's go Pat! Work your magic. The clock is ticking.

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  91. "The assumption seems to be that two or three megastars on one team is a good thing. But I can't think of a more boring setup."-ESPN article.

    Considering the Lakers look like they do now, the Celtics have 3, & even Shaq-Kobe, MJ-Pippen, Stockton-Malone, Erving-Barkley, etc., that's a very stupid way to look at it. Megastars teaming up wins championships. Megastars going at each other just makes good tv.

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  92. BTW, if the Cavs sign Amare, then I'm pretty confident we'll get Bosh this summer. Wade and Bosh pairing up would be the only chance they get to win a championship in their prime.

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  93. The article referenced by GS521 is just another in a long line that make me wonder just how Jemele Hill continues to have a job at ESPN. That thing is so rife with bullshit and inaccuracies, that you'd think it was intentional.

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  94. I just came up with a great trade that will help everyone involved.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjtsofh

    Thunder get Darren Collison, Dorrel Wright, Mario Chalmers, and Udonis Haslem. They get a frontcourt player and Collison + Wright who look like they have a lot of potential.

    Hornets get Russel Westbrook and James Jones and Arroyo.

    Heat get Paul, Durant, and Ibaka

    Paul/Wade
    Wade/Cook
    Durant/Diawara
    Beasley/Ibaka
    Jermaine O'Neal/Magloire

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  95. If the Cavs get Amare Lebron to Miami is over. Problem is how can we build a team to compete with the Cavs through free agency even if we get Bosh?

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  96. "If they get Amare, they wont be able to do anything else ever again. They cant get any better at least."

    We definitely could. Wade-Bosh-Beasley would already be a great core moving forward and we could still add nice pieces or maybe get another allstar via a Beasley trade. This Amare to Cavs nonsense could turn out to be a good thing for us.

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  97. Ouch. I was responding to this

    " If the Cavs get Amare Lebron to Miami is over. Problem is how can we build a team to compete with the Cavs through free agency even if we get Bosh?"

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  98. I'm confused... Does Steve Kerr work for the Suns or the Cavs?

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  99. "If they get Amare, they wont be able to do anything else ever again. They cant get any better at least."

    We definitely could. Wade-Bosh-Beasley would already be a great core moving forward and we could still add nice pieces or maybe get another allstar via a Beasley trade. This Amare to Cavs nonsense could turn out to be a good thing for us.

    FEBRUARY 14, 2010 12:52 PM

    If Bron and Amare hook up, first of all getting Bosh is just the beginning. You have to trade Beasley for a nice package, although I'm not sure if there will be one available. I'm sure Joe Johnson could be had maybe try for him. And then maybe do a deal for Haywood or Dampier and someone from Dallas with like Mario Chalmers and some other guys s&t.

    You'll get

    Terry
    Wade
    Johnson
    Bosh
    Haywood

    I guess. I mean that's not bad at all. Not sure if it will beat LeBron but w/e.

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  100. The Cavs will find a way to make moves regardless of who is on their roster. They've made moves the last three years without having to give up any talent. If you are willing to spend money, there is always going to be talent available by trade.

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  101. JB said...
    The Cavs will find a way to make moves regardless of who is on their roster. They've made moves the last three years without having to give up any talent.

    FEBRUARY 14, 2010 1:27 PM

    Yup. You can say the same for any team whose GM doesn't completely suck.

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  102. The scary thing is Cleveland can still acquire another piece using the MLE in the summer to acquire a Ray Allen, Tracy Mcgrady, or a Josh Howard. If the Amare trade goes through it's the Chicago Bulls dynasty of the 90's all over again. The rest of the league will be hibernating for the next 6 years.

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  103. Herald has positive articles about Beasley:

    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/basketball/story/1479429.html

    Sun-Sentinel just has Ira...

    I think we should keep going on there like TylerD and post (in various ways to avoid immediate removal) the link to this blog.

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  104. Last year's Cav's loss to Orlando needed to happen this year in order to sour Lebron on Cleveland. I'm afraid he will be staying there unless they trip again in the post season. If that's the case, Bosh/Beasley seems redundant and I wonder what "dynasty" mr pat could be able to build...

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  105. Read on cnnsi citing yahoo sports that Stoudemire does not want to go to Cleveland and prefers Miami because of its weather and does not want to play Shaq.

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  106. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4913834

    While Stoudemire has good relationships with LeBron James and Shaquille O'Neal, some close to Stoudemire believe Miami -- where he lives during the summer -- is his first choice.

    Miami has pursued Stoudemire hard but has no one on its roster (besides Dwyane Wade) that interests Phoenix, according to sources. That includes Michael Beasley. So it would take a three-team deal for Stoudemire to be traded to the Heat.

    Of course, Cleveland can also pursue three-team deals that would sweeten the offer for Phoenix.
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    Interesting. It's intriguing to try to mix and match these reports to see what the truth actually is. Is Arison fast-talking because he can't ship Beasley out or is Phoenix trying to save face in light of Miami lowballing them? It'd surprise me if they really had no interest in Beasley. He's perfect to run up and down with Nash and make defense an afterthought.

    Whatever. As long as he stays.

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  107. Lord Hades said...
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4913834

    "Miami has pursued Stoudemire hard but has no one on its roster (besides Dwyane Wade) that interests Phoenix, according to sources. That includes Michael Beasley. So it would take a three-team deal for Stoudemire to be traded to the Heat."

    WTF? How retarded is Steve Kerr that they are interested in JJ Hickson and not Beasley?

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  108. "WTF? How retarded is Steve Kerr that they are interested in JJ Hickson and not Beasley?"

    I was just about to say that. Guess he really does want to run the Suns into the ground. I feel bad for Nash...

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  109. So it basically says the Suns covet Iggy. When are they going to learn? Who would choose Philly over Miami? Miami, would seem, is in the drivers seat. I could see Cleveland because they offer title hopes but Philly? Dont see it.

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  110. I dont believe that Kerr would not want Beasley. Dont buy it at all.

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  111. I think what might be holding up the Cleveland/Phoenix deal is Amare prefers Miami and is not giving assurance to Cleveland that he will stay long term. Hopefully Amare forces the Suns to deal him here without us giving up Beasley.

    I could see both Lebron and Wade giving their best sales pitches to recruit Amare this weekend. LOL.

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  112. People forget that we are also dealing with a young mans life. A young man who has to spend the next X amount of years somewhere. Its all about winning but if you could have your cake and eat it too, then why not. I think Amare should lobby to go to Miami. My fear is that it will have to come in the form of three way trade involving Beasley. Hopefully Arison stays true to his word.

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  113. I'm not sold on Amare as the solution. Keep Beasley. Mabye Bosh and others. James ain't coming.

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  114. but i'd take an end of the year rental...

    keep beasley

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  115. realize that beasley has less baggage than amare?!?!?

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  116. From ESPN Insider:

    UPDATE: Earlier reports had the Cavs officially making an offer, putting the proverbial ball in Phoenix's court. But according to ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher, Cleveland may have ulterior motives, namely turning up the heat on the Wizards with regards to dealing Antawn Jamison.



    Ric Bucher at the All-Star Game
    Jamison the real target

    "A Phoenix source refuted reports, fueled by Cavs' sources, that Cleveland has made an offer for Amare Stoudemire and is awaiting the Suns' yes-or-no answer. So why would the Cavs want that out there? Why would they even be considering Stoudemire, since he doesn't fit their overall profile, nor is he the best fit as the "stretch 4" they believe they need. One league source posited a sensible explanation: because this is merely saber-rattling to get the Wizards to deal them the guy they really want, Antawn Jamison. So far, Washington has been looking around for a better deal, although a concrete one has not materialized. The dalliance with Stoudemire is Cleveland's way of saying, 'Don't take us for granted. We may not be here when you get back to us.' "

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  117. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

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  118. there is no way that Kerr does that trade.

    So let see...the Heat has to trade all their talent and wheel and deal for a championship while the cavs just parlay a bunch of nobody's into one?

    If Kerr does that deal, the NBA should step in.

    There is not a person with a brain that would agree that Hickson offers a better deal than Beasley.

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  119. JGtruth

    Makes perfect sense. I don't see why the Wizards don't just do it already. They're already blowing the team up. Just get it over with. Next year, they'd have Arenas-Young-Hickson-Blatche-McGee to work with

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  120. So guys, are you all going back to Ira's blog? He fixed it. I thought this was just temporary.

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  121. Eric Snow said LeBron is going to look for the MVP since he's a cowboy fans. Well Chris, we're going to see Bron chuck like Westbrook, lol.

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  122. Ali,

    As long as KB and Chris keep up the maintenance on the blog, we will remain loyal followers.....as most have shown in the past few years, we are loyal to a fault. We struggled through Ira's retarded blog formats until enough was enough(what he changed it 3 times over the past 16 months and never got it right). Now we only do cameo's over there, because Ira can fix the blog but he will never fix his biased, skewed opinions. Regardless of how many times he tries to state that he is simply a Heat Beat Writer and does NOT report his opinion. His columns and blogs are always to the contrary. I think most people would have more respect for Ira if he actually came out and said, "I like Haslem over Beasley. I like Spo as a coach."

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  123. I'll go back to Ira's blog when I see objective journalism from Ira. For example he never calls out Haslem or Spo when they make mistakes yet he always critizices Beasley even when he plays well. Also too many trollers and Wade haters on that blog. I think it's fair to say I speak for most bloggers who saught refugee from that blog.

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  124. I am debating whether or not I even want to watch the game as I little interest in watching the Bron vs Durant hogfest that will erupt.

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  125. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzb9fye

    Phoenix gets: UD and Iggy + Miami First Round pick

    Philly gets: Cook, Jones, Richardson+ Miami 2nd rd pick & cash

    Miami gets: Amar'e, Kapono

    Phoenix does it to get a reasonably priced "star" in Igoudala who is very loved in Phoenix from his U of A days who would fit the system well. Haslem is a good stop gap at the position who could be re-signed at a reasonable price if they like him... they would need a first round pick added, which would likely come from Miami.

    Philly does it to get out from under Igoudala's contract. They get a good young player in Cook and a poor man's Kapono in Jones, who they may buy out. Q-Rich is a serviceable expiring.

    Miami does it to get Stoudamire without giving up Beasley. They also manage to clear Cook's and Jones's guaranteed contracts.

    If Miami has to throw Philly a first rounder too I think they do it. I don't know much about the 2010 draft class, but am willing to bet that they are tradeable assets if it can get us one of 2010's top assets. Kapono gives us the 3 point shooting we have not had all season.

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  126. A. Ali said...
    So guys, are you all going back to Ira's blog? He fixed it. I thought this was just temporary.

    FEBRUARY 14, 2010 5:51 PM

    define "temporary"! hahah
    i like it here **stretches legs**

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  127. I'm slowly starting to lose faith in the East...

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  128. I'll consider going back to Ira's blog when they deal with with impostor/spammer crap and when he stops writing shit to try and get a rise out of people.

    It's been incredibly peaceful here. We've been able to discuss, agree and disagree without any of the drama or idiots that were commonplace at Ira's. It's going to take more than getting rid of that stupid Recaptcha thing to lure me back. I'm in no hurry to abandon ship.

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  129. LeBron, Wade & Melo chilling before the game. See? A 3on3 tourney would not be fair because of those guys.

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  130. Cool, looks like I'll be switching back and forth between both blogs. I've been reading Ira's columns in the newspaper/online for about 15 years now, so I'll still follow him, but will check up on here as well.

    Plus Ira has been this way the whole time, atleast he doesn't waver from his beliefs, no matter how contrary to the popular opinion they might be.

    Anyways I like both blogs.

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