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Sunday, February 14, 2010

Making CENTS Of This Beasley Mess..





So, here we are again. Another episode of "All My Beasley's". In one corner, u have fans who see the potential and note the production. In another corner, you have fans that want instant results, and denounce the production. Then you have Ira who insists the Heat would trade Beasley for so much a Brooks Lopez, and you have fans who would welcome an injury prone malcontent (Stoudamire), whos 28 and would be either the highest paid player on your team, yes more than Wade, or just as soon be gone in free agency, leaving us with nothing. So what gives?

   This is the cold hard truth on the Beasley situation.  Money is the first issue. The  heat are trying so hard to get under the tax, theres actually interest in getting rid of one of the best rotation players,Wright, whos pretty cheap by the way, for nothing more than  tax space. What happend to that spat about Riley wanting Wade's signature and Wade wanting a promise the Heat was trying to win? Have we truly become the Clippers East? The Marlins of the NBA? When did being cheap trump winning? Anyway, how does this relate to Beasley? Ira says that possibly moving Beasley is of interest simply because the Heat would be off the books for the remainder of his deal. Off the books? A guy thats around 17 and 7 making 5 mill a year is a salary burden I suppose.


   The second issue becomes building a winner,  which should always be first and foremost. Wade wants to win again. He has tasted success and wants more of it. Thats fair. He also has said he will not let this season determine his long term status with the heat. Isnt that what u want from your leader? Patience and understanding? Him being real with himself and this team and not pulling a Kobe Bryant, whom for some odd reason so many bloggers want him to emulate, should be all u can ask for. He has given that. So y the bum's rush with Beasley? Riley himself said nobody is walking around on eggshells for Dwade, and thats the way it should be. F*ck Dwade, Beasley, Spoelstra, and anybody else who would dare think they come before the organization. This franchise will be here long after they are gone.But maybe we are all jumping to conclusions about the Heat rushing Beasley out. I mean how many Pat Riley deals has anyone ever seen coming before hand?


The third issue goes back to winning. Can the heat win with Beasley? My question is why in the hell not? I hate when ppl say "hes not a championship player". Thats the dumbest statement in the world. Nobody is a championship player until they win a championship. Now saying if  a guy can be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option is a little different. Beasley is a scorer, an absurdly good one at that. The problem here is we dont believe in offense and dont know how to use him, or anybody else for that matter. The guy can score and score in bunches and in different ways. The problem for most Beasley detractors is the way he scores. Everyone is upset cause he doesnt have a post game. Thats senseless. First off, the easiest skill scoring wise to develop is probably a post game. It takes no real talent, u arent born with a post game. The majority of post play is all fundamental moves. The best players have a natural feel for it like Shaq or Hakeem. Not that Shaq had  a wide variety, but nobody had a better feel for the low post. Even guys without the feel for it, if they work on it, they become Alonzo Mourning. To a greater extent Tim Duncan. All fundamental and basic big man moves that they have perfected. There was nothing at all smooth or pretty about Zo in the low post but he sure was damn effective, one of the few centers u will ever see who can hook consistently with both hands. Boozer has a great feel down low and is very similar to Beasley in stature. What gives anybody the idea Beasley cant match that? He can get stronger, hes more agile, has better touch, bigger threat outside of the paint, and has more hops. Maybe if they didnt waste a summer trying to slim him into a position he cant play, we would see a developing post game. I recall everybody hyping up Speights over Beasley last year in stretches. Fans get caught up with watching espn and seeing them block shots, snag rebounds, and dunking. Guys like that, once you put a body on them night in and night out, they are useless until they figure out other skills, Beasley wont have that problem, Griffin just might. He has to add an away from the basket game, otherwise he will blow his knee out every year. How far along Beasley is in his development, at least offensively, is ridiculous for a 2nd year pf at 20-21. Detractors dont notice because hes not dunking every time he touches the ball.

Last but not least, cohesiveness and trust. The 2 most glaring issues. You cant trust a guy if you dont let him earn that trust. He has to be put out more often to sink or swim. This becomes an issue with the men in charge. You had 2 years to waste basically making Beasley a better player and letting him fight thru the rough patches...you didnt take the opportunity. So what happens when we go into year 3? More unanswered questions and that is just assbackwards. As far as cohesiveness goes, well, back to the men in charge again. Them being on the same page is all on the coach. Run a game plan that works to everyone's strengths, something we dont seem to know how to do.  About all this stuff about who likes playing with who, f*ck all that. They are professionals, go out there, win, and nobody would give a  f*ck.Jordan won 6 titles with 2 guys he didnt want in Pippen and Kukoc, Kobe and Shaq won 3 titles hating each other and I dont get the sense anybody on this team despises each other near as much. Everyone knows my stance is to replace the Sporon in charge with somebody who knows how to coach offense, sub correctly, and doesnt have a hard on for charges. Somebody who doesnt have an issue working with young players. You do that, and all is well. Theres just not a person who can convince me that Beasley is the problem going forward.


The bottom line for me is this.......Aside from what JB said about the Heat not knowing how to use him or whatever, you cant make sense of trading away a guy who has an undersized rookie put up 16 and 6, as a non starter, that only makes 5 mill or so for the next 3 years. JB has the only argument that makes any sense for trading him. Even if you go after Amare or whoever in the offseason, y in the hell would u not add them and just make Beasley your 6th man for  a year. then trade him the next year? In a world where dollars and cents rule supreme, cheap and underpaid labor makes the most sense(cents as well). There is no addition by subtraction in this case, we are not an Amare or Bosh away from contending. These other teams are not running a 2 man game anymore, those days are gone. You also dont spend or trade for the sake of just doing "something". So what if the PF market is the deepest market in the offseason, thats dumb to go after one when you already have  one, knowing you have 3 other positions on the floor that are weaker. You dont fix something thats not broken, you upgrade the things around it.

38 comments:

  1. Lord Hades.....send your email adress to mine. Kbboy80@yahoo.com anybody else who wants to contribute(write or post articles), do the same.

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  2. Btw......I will stop the long blog posts. Jesus tap dancing christ that was long.

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  3. ``We're doing a lot of talking right now,'' Arison said of the chances Miami would make a trade. ``I wish I knew. There are a lot of interesting things going on. We've put some offers out there, but nothing's happened. When the other side says yes at some point, we've got a deal. If we don't get one of the guys we like, keep our flexibility.''
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    basically we are low balling the shit out of these deals and looking for desperate teams wanting tax relief...we will see if we up these "feeler" deals into next week.

    key issue brought up by people
    4.2 mil trade exception expires monday...not using that somehow would be ridiculous.
    someone mentioned snagging blatche with that..i wonder what else is possible.

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  4. Keep up the blog posts, KB. Long or not they've got more substance than most Miami newspapers...

    Anyway, I don't think Amare goes to the Cavs. It was reported the Cavs are after Jamison and are just posturing to not give the edge to Washington. Even if they do, at least we'll still have Beasley and can stop worrying about Lebron and Amare and start worrying about people who ARE attainable and form a solid core for the future. I'm not panicking but I do hope to at least see some movement from our front office this week especially if we use our trade exception and prove to the fans that its not just about money.

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  5. Trading Beasley for Amare = bad
    Long blog posts that make sense = good.

    I wish I could make more sense/cents out of Phoenix, but trying to understand Steve Kerr is enough to drive you crazy. I really don't see how Phoenix has all that much leverage. It's fairly clear they're not going to give him a max and Amare seems just like the type of diva to go chasing dollars. There's no way he doesn't opt out. If they truly get anything of substance, I'll be stunned.

    E-mail sent, Kb.

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  6. great work kbboy. LOL @ the pic of Haslem scowling at Beasley. Where do you come up with this shit, HAHAHA.

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  7. Good post Hades, Kerr is f*cking up. To be fair tho, the Suns have had this coming for years. Being cheap by trading draft picks (deng,nate, etc) an worrying about the instant gratification they were getting from their core. Thats a long and slippery slope Miami could start on by moving Beasley,draft picks and Wright for damn cap space and tax issues. I think Riley is smarter than that. I do believe he is thinking down the line, at least I hope.

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  8. Btw, on that trade exception, I doubt we use it. Mickey seems hell bent on saving luxury tax dollards. I like Blatche, but I would rather use it on Mcgee if we did in fact use it.

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  9. Chris that picure was perfect wasnt it? lol Makes me want to throw a rock at UD

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  10. Kb, I think the issue with Beasley is does he compliment Wade's game as good as Amare can. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Beasley fan but if Amare goes to Cleveland we lose out on both Lebron and Amare in the summer. The only thing that's left is Bosh as far as having a big man that can compete with the Lakers/Cavs/Magic frontcourt. If we miss out on Bosh do you really think Wade would feel himself and Beasley and someone like Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay is good enough? I highly doubt it.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is if we end up trading Beasley for Amare it's not such a bad thing if it ensures Wade resigns and makes other free agents want to come here because they will be part of a three headed monster ( Wade/Amare/Max free agent ) that can compete with the elite. As much as I would hate to see Beasley go personally, I think Miami becomes a more attractive free agent destination because of the Amare Wade combination.

    Now, if we can somehow acquire Amare without giving up Beasley then I would be doing cartwheels for a whole week straight!

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  11. I personallydont think AMare makes us that much more attractive, not when u are luring big names. Wade is enough. Big names want to go and make a name, not just come and be a 3rd or 4th guy. So when u bring up Rudy or Joe, it might be more attractive to come and play WITH wade then play behind Wade and Amare.

    As far as their games meshing, why would they not? Beasley has the perfect game to pull big men outside of the paint. I dont think its the big men thats frustrating Wade on this team, I think its the gaurd play. Hes the only creator on the floor, that gets extremly tiring. I think we get too overworked about what will make wade stay. I have said before, players dont make great front office decisions, its not their job. Their job is to trust the men in charge and go out and play. When we are talking money and what u can bring in, you can have a front court of Kaman and Beasley , that cost the same amount Amare makes by himself. So keeping Amare isnt as attractive depth wise or financially. Thats the kind of decision a gm has to make. Can u imagine if the Lakers had traded Bynum for JO or Kidd right about now? I dont think Kobe would be a happy camper. Just like he was unhappy a few years after ushering Shaq out the door. You can not let players dictate personnel.

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  12. BTW keep up the good work KB. Awesome blog!

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  13. As far as meshing with Wade, one of the reasons it's been a struggle for Beasley is because he lacks the feel for getting to the right spots wether it's off a pick and roll or slashing to the basket without the ball. Hopefully he gets better at this in the next couple of years. Right now he is mainly an isolation player. He needs to improve his feel for getting to the right spots without the ball. Amare is awesome at playing off the ball, mainly in pick and rolls. That's why I don't think another free agent would be deterred by joining Wade and Amare as much as they would be if they joined a Wade and Beasley combo. Beasley is an isolation one on one scorer. Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay would hardly get touches and if they do then Beasley would be mostly left out. What's the use of having Beasley on the team if he's left out of the thing he does best.

    I hope this post doesn't get misinterpreted as me not liking Beasley or his game. The post is mainly to see what pieces fit best considering the type of players available in free agency.

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  14. haha, Mark Cuban just came at Miami. "Miami was fun, but it was NOTHING like this."

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  15. JG I see what you are saying. I personally just think the lack of focus by Sporon to make sure Wade and Beasley mesh is the reason we have all the open ended questions about Beasley succeeding here. On this team, everybody has been an isolation player with the exception of that pick and pop play between Wade and Haslem.

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  16. And btw, if the NBA has another lockout under Stern, he should be voted out as commissioner. I thikn he should be voted out anyway.

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  17. Lol. A certain bicycle rider has been left to talk amongst himself at a certain other blog. Hilarious!

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  18. You guys making excuses for Beasley, please explain why a player of his caliber needs to be micromanaged and is so high maintenance?

    I'm pretty sure great players are just supposed to "get it" and not need to have a hundred excuses made up for them. The guys who have excuses made up for them are the underachievers of this league, not the all-stars and superstars.

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  19. dwight howard is being soft with all this shaq talk,,,,shaq is dissing howard any chance he gets and howard just told dave aldridge, he respects shaq, would like to learn from him, has no problems with him, he can keep the nickname if he wants it etc.

    whatever..IMO..that's just weak when another player is dogging you any chance he gets a microphone.

    my response would be, i'm not caught up nor worried about all that..and just move on...

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  20. I-Win, he doesn't need to be micro-managed. That's what we have an issue with.

    You mention Allstars, well take a look at the Allstar teams rosters. These guys weren't selected to the game because of their defense.

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  21. I win, these are not excuses for Beasley, and in no way does he need to be micromanaged. Theres not a player in sports that doesnt need to be put in position to succeed. Its funny u say his high maintenance but u willingly would trade him for known high maintenance malcontent in Stoudamire. Beasley is not high maintenance, if he was he would have bitched about his minutes and touches a hundred times over. As it stands he has done nothing but worked hard, improved, and kept his mouth closed.

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  22. Btw, great players dont just
    "get it", not in the least bit. Kobe didnt just "get it". For years he was nothing more than a chucker with an inflated ego. Tmac was an afterthought when he played alongside Vince, and became great once he got out of Toronto. Theres nothing to "get", they all have to learn and work hard to become great. They also dont just learn on their own. They all have mentors, coachs, vets, etc to help them become the players they are today.

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  23. dammit i cant get in the chat :((((

    Anyway, East looking good. Wade playing GREAT off the ball.. 10 pts, 8 off dunks to go with 7 assists in the 1st half. Wow. Imagine if he had a team like that? DAAAAMMM

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  24. BTW, for anyone who wants to praise Beasley for his demeanor and the way he has handled the Heat's handling of his playing - and how he has come around personally - let's not dump on Haslem either - his foolish statements aside - because UD has probably made the most effort to take Beasley under his wings. He's a class guy, though lacking in talent.

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  25. who is lined up at pg for the east?

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  26. Rudy Gay will be wearing a Heat uni by the end of the week.
    NostraBigSarge has spoken...

    PS - can't get on the chat!

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  27. How about a Bosh-Beasley-Lebron-Wade-chalmers? lineup??? Get it done Riley!!!!

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  28. I got kicked out of the chat?!?!?

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  29. First of : Wade was... just W-O-W, tonight. Fucking amazing. The guy owns this town called Dallas.

    Then : Don't fucking trade for Amare. Bosh his way better than him. Wade + Bosh > Bron + Amare.

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  30. and sorry to those of you who can't get in the chat. we have these tards here who are online but not logging in and there's a 25 person limit.

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  31. Wow just checked Iras blog and it has nothing but tards left blogging. What have you guys done?lol

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  32. Except Doctorb. Great sense of humor that dude has.

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  33. Can't believe Karl didn't call a play for Dirk in that last possession. I was like, WTF?! Epic fail.

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  34. BTW, I'm 100% rooting for us to get Bosh this summer. He and Wade played great off each other.

    Also, did you guy notice the look Bron had on his face when Stern handed the MVP trophy to Wade in front of those 108,713 people? He was pissed, right? Yes he was. Hehe.

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  35. Check this out : http://i50.tinypic.com/2rcs591.gif

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