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Monday, February 22, 2010

AFTER THE DUST SETTLES......



 Now that the trade deadline has come and gone, the focus turns away from the here and now, to the "soon to be". What that means is  with Riley standing pat, Beasley seemingly apart of the future, at least for now, we can examine what the transformation of this team could be like. In the upcoming days I am pretty sure we will have many discussions on what we need/ want added to this team. I will be writing my ideas on a blog soon to come and I hope others will do the same. In the words of Dwade "Its nice to dream". All that being said, props goes out to my  boy JGtruth on this one. Heres a look at the offseason menu( I think this is extremely helpful as it basically has a players worth in monetary value) that should get some of the blog gm juices flowing. I would just like you all to keep in mind what I said. Having ample cap space does not mean we will be adressing every need thru free agency. Cap space actually gives us more leverage to trade.What that means is when you look at this list, dont spend all your money in one place. ENJOY!!!

Unrestricted
Minimum Wage               $2-3 Mill                            $3-5 Mill                 $5-8 Mill                      
Jason Collins         Atl       Marquis Daniels  Bos  Joe Smith        Atl    Ray Allen            Bos     
Randolph Morris -Atl       Eddie House-      Bos    Brad Miller     Chi    Ray Felton           Cha   
JR Giddens -Bos           Brian Scalabrine-  Bos    Earl Watson   Ind   Shaq Oneal Clv
Shelden Williams- Bos      Theo Ratliff -     Cha   Steve Blake     Por   Brendan Haywood
Stephen Graham  -Cha       Joe Alexander-   Chi    Rasual Butler   Lac   Tracy Mcgrady   NY
Lindsey Hunter   -Chi        Devin Brown-     Chi    Drew Gooden  Lac   Travis Outlaw     Lac  
Jerome James       -Chi        Flip Murray-       Chi    Derek Fisher   Lal    Jermaine Oneal  Mia
Acie Law              -Chi         Hakim Warrick- Chi    Udonis HaslemMia   Al Harrington    NY
Jenero Pargo        -Chi         Kwame Brown-   Det    Quentin Richardso   Louis Amundson Pho
Tim Thomas        -Dal          Ben Wallace-      Det    Dorell Wright Mia  Marcus Camby    Por 
Malik Allen          -Den        Raja Bell-            GS     Luke Ridnour   Mil   Manu Ginobli     SA 
Anthony Carter   -Den       Steve Novak-      Lac   Larry Hughes   NY   Zydrunas Illgauskas
Johan Petro         -Den        Craig Smith-        Lac   Nate Robinson Bos  
Chucky Atkins    - Det       Josh Powell -       Lal   Etan Thomas   Okc
Devean George     -GS        Primoz Brezec-   Mil    Matt Bonner     SA
Anthony Tolliver -GS         Darko Milicic -   Min   Roger Mason    SA
Brian Cook           -Hou    Aleksandar  Pavlo- Min Kyle Korver     Uta
Travis Diener       -Ind         Damien Wilkins - Min  Mike Miller     Was
Luther Head         -Hou       Tony Battie-        NJ   
Brian Skinner       -Lac         Jarvis Hayes-        NJ 
DJ Mbenga           -Lal         Bobby Simmons-  NJ
Steven Hunter      Mem      Brian Cardinal-     NY
Jamaal Tinsley     Mem      Chris Duhon-        NY 
Marcus Williams  Mem     Anthony Johnson-Orl
Rafer Alston        Mia        Jason Williams-    Orl 
Carlos Arroyo      Mia       Rodney Carney-   Phi 
Yakhouba DiawaraMia      Allen Iverson-      Phi
Jamaal Magloire   Mia        Ime Udoka -         Sac
Royal Ivey           Mil         Kieth Bogans-      SA
Jerry Stackhouse  Mil         Michael Finley-    SA
Kurt Thomas       Mil         Amir Johnson-     Tor
Mark Blount        Min        Rash Nesterovic-  Tor
Trenton Hassell   NJ          Antoine Wright-   Tor 
Chris Quinn         Mia        Javaris Crittendon-Was 
Ike Diogu             NO        Fabricio Oberto-    Was
Sean Marks          NO        James Singleton-    Was
Jonathan Bender  Mil       
Jarron Collins      Pho
Juwan Howard      Por
Sean May             Sac
Earl Boykins        Was
Mike James          Was

8-13mill                                   13mill-max
David Lee   Ny                      Dirk Nowitski  Dal
Carlos Boozer   Utah           Chris Bosh     Tor
                                      Joe Johnson   Atl
Restricted
Minimum                            $2-3 Mill                         $3-5 Mill                      $5-8 Mill                                        
               
Chris Hunter      GS           Moe Evans    Atl         Anthony Morrow  GS   Luis Scola         Hou          
Bobby Brown    Lac         Jawaad Williams  Cle  CJ Watson            GS    Tyrus Thomas   Chi
Aaron Gray        NO         Will Bynum    Det        Kyle Lowry         Hou     JJ Redick
                                         Mardy Collins  Lac     Ronnie Brewer    Mem 
                        Sergio Rodriguez     Jordan Farmar    Lal           
                                          Adam Morrison    Lal  Hilton Armstrong  Sac
                                           Josh Boone           NJ  
                                           John Brockman    Sac
8-13mill                                           
Rudy Gay Mem                                          
                                          
Player options
   $2-3 Mill                         $3-5 Mill                            $5-8 Mill                                          
  Shannon Brown    Lal     Matt Barnes        Orl      Tyson Chandler Cha            
  Kris Humphries     NJ                                          John Salmons     Mil                     

 9-13mill                   13mill-Max                   


 Paul Pierce                Lebron   CLv
 Yao Ming                   Kobe      LA
                                 K. Mart  Den
                                 Dwade   Mia
                                Amare    Phx

39 comments:

  1. not much comments being left here...

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  2. I was going to say the same thing GS....LOL
    Hello is anybody home!!!! I guess the blog should be jumping during gametime tomorrow against the Minny T'Wolves....

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  3. This is the gametime blog. The other blog is the hype one. We're like the bar that everyone comes to watch the game and talk about with all the cool people. The other blog is the lunch room at work where all the casual guys who don't know much about the sport go to.

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  4. But seriously, this place is more for the chat than the blog. Great posts by Kbboy and all the other contributors as usual.

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  5. "One key factoid that probably will prevent the Magic from making too much of Sunday's toppling of Cleveland: Shaq outscored Dwight 14-9 when they guarded each other and 15-12 when they were both on the floor."

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  6. Agreed Chris....LMAO!!!!!

    I've been on Ira's blog and notice pretty much nothing b-ball related being discussed so I haven't posted in a while and probably because there isn't much to talk about Heat-wise anyways.

    Nice work kbboy, I'll sit down a little later and put on my Riley GM thinking cap and put together a decent dynasty team with some of the players you've listed...
    BTW, Is Druggie and I-Win the same person?

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  7. the other blog has turned into a playground, i don't eve mess with it.

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  8. well, i anxiously await gamedays so that i can converse on the chat, but on non-gamedays it can be as empty as the AAA the day after a jon secada concert

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  9. I think I've looked at the commentary on Ira's blog twice since our little exodus. Too much nonsense. Granted, I use to occasionally contribute my fair share of unnecessary remarks as well, but I prefer a less crazy place. Hell, before kb came up with this, I'd checked out a couple other of moderated Heat boards, because the other stuff was wearing thin.

    All that said, I'm not anxious to give up the gametime chat. It's like going from wine coolers to the good alcohol. No turning back.

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  10. "We're like the bar that everyone comes to watch the game and talk about with all the cool people. The other blog is the lunch room at work where all the casual guys who don't know much about the sport go to."

    Good point. It really is a circus over there...

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  11. is bosh at center and beasley at power forward really gonna be tough enough moving forward?

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  12. In the post-trade deadline fallout, I started doing my wannabe GM thing as well. We all know the target is a max guy who we could get away with playing at the 5(Bosh, Stoudamire, in that order). Assuming we score there, taking into account Chalmers' and Anthony's options, draft picks, the partial guarantee after waiving, and leftover cap holds, there's upward of 8-9M left (53M cap). From there, I'm looking PG (Steve Blake, Raymond Felton; both should be available for under or around 5M), then other cheap bench guys like Hakim Warrick, Flip Murray and/or a reserve big body like DJ Mbenga.

    The only current guy I could see us making a competitive offer to would be Dorell in that 3M range. JO is playing too well to take the minimum scraps we'd have left after addressing other areas, if someone in Ontario or Arizona is changing addresses. Someone will offer him in the neighborhood of a MLE as a starter. Though I don't see Haslem being as coveted, he can likely do better in terms of $$$ and PT elsewhere. This 'apprenticeship' with Beasley should have ended a while ago. It's certainly over come next season.

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  13. adrianw743 said...
    is bosh at center and beasley at power forward really gonna be tough enough moving forward?

    FEBRUARY 22, 2010 5:54 PM

    I wouldn't be able to count on them deep in the playoffs to get me the stops I need.

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  14. "is bosh at center and beasley at power forward really gonna be tough enough moving forward?"

    Maybe we trade Beas for Kaman, Perkins, or some other center we can pair with Bosh. Might not have to go that far since all you need is someone who blocks shots & rebounds. If you can find a C without trading Beas, look for a good PG or SF we can get with him. In a perfect world, we'd be able to fill all of our spots while keeping Beas, but we have a better chance of getting LeBron AND Bosh...

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  15. I'm eating some sonics right now.. A sonic burger with cheese, mayo, ketchup, and the chicken with fries meal.. Damn this is what I'm serving at my next wedding.

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  16. Chick-Fil-A is catering my wedding.

    ...

    Actually, I'll just get a bunch of food from there, one weekend during the playoffs and call it a day. Much less effort that way.

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  17. If we don't get Lebron and so go for Bosh as the next star target, i really believe that we trade beasley. shame. problem is i just don't see bosh at C. You don't need a star there anymore, just someone who brings the lunch pail. If Bease were to mature rapidly enough to become bosh, what if we went to fill out the team with higher-quality pieces? Big IF.

    Who are the top/legitimate centers now anyways????

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  18. oh, and that other blog has just become putrid and infested with swarming crap.

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  19. Chris said...
    I'm eating some sonics right now.. A sonic burger with cheese, mayo, ketchup, and the chicken with fries meal.. Damn this is what I'm serving at my next wedding.

    FEBRUARY 22, 2010 7:16 PM
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    sounds like a recipe for disaster. I imagine you will be peeing out your asshole later this evening. =)

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  20. Sorry for the way the blog post came out with the list and all. The names for some odd reason arent as neat an balanced as I had posted them. Whatever.

    On the subject of commenting, maybe I should cahnge the ambience, and make the background white.. Make the new commers feel at home like this was Ira's place. That blog over there is a joke tho, nothing but trolling. The main reason for the lack of posting over here really is the chat box. lol. That thing is the devil.

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  21. "On the subject of commenting, maybe I should cahnge the ambience, and make the background white.."

    Personally, I prefer the dark background, but I think I'm in the minority, lol.

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  22. my biggest curiosity is who we can get with the 8 million or so left over. steve blake and raymond felton have been mentioned and are worthy fill-ins. maybe a trade for a pg would be in the offing this offseason. heck in a DREAM world, with the way collison is playing in new orleans, one could only hope chris paul would be in play for draft picks, james jones and cap space

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  23. then again, almost reversing myself mid-stride, there is something to be said for having a pg that knows how to spot up and knock down opn j's, defend the other team's pg, get the ball to the right people at the right time, and be OK with wade dominating the ball down the stretch, much like a mo williams in cle

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  24. Don't change anything with this blog. Sure there is less activity, but the first 20 post on Ira's blog where from some guy posting as "druggie" making no sense. Keep this blog free from that... it picks up during games. The chat feature is the coolest thing I have ever seen on the internet.

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  25. If Bosh comes Beasley is gone. Riley will turn Beasley plus the cap space into something like Haywood/Camby and Hinrich. I think it will payoff in the next 3-5 years, but after that Beasley will be the best NBA player out of Wade and Bosh who will be something like 33 and 32 years old.

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  26. yeah, there are always certain things we say as worth the price of admission, like dwayne wade vs kobe, and in this case, the chat is worth the price of admission.

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  27. helium said...
    when's the game?

    FEBRUARY 22, 2010 7:34 PM

    Tomorrow 7:30 pm EST.

    C'mon man.

    jk

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  28. the first 20 post on Ira's blog where from some guy posting as "druggie" making no sense. Keep this blog free from that.

    FEBRUARY 22, 2010 8:24 PM

    You're a wordsmith man.

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  30. I would switch Yao Ming with K-Mart in expected salary... Yao is worth the max based on how rare his abilities are and how marketable he is.

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  31. Narrowed down the list a little bit including some role players that I find interesting...

    G
    Ray Allen
    Eddie House
    Ray Felton
    Steve Blake
    Flip Murray
    Acie Law
    Raja Bell
    Luke Ridnour
    Manu Ginobili
    Larry Hughes
    Nate Robinson
    Roger Mason
    Rafer Alston
    Jason Williams
    Carlos Arroyo
    Allen Iverson
    Javaris Crittendon
    Earl Boykins
    Mo Evans
    Anthony Morrow
    Kyle Lowry
    Ronnie Brewer
    Sergio Rodriguez

    F

    Joe Alexander
    Rasual Butler
    Tracy Mcgrady
    Drew Gooden
    Travis Outlaw
    Hakim Warrick
    Udonis Haslem
    Al Harrington
    Quentin Richardson
    Dorell Wright
    Mike Miller
    Ime Udoka
    Ike Diogu
    David Lee
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Carlos Boozer
    Chris Bosh
    Joe Johnson
    Luis Scola
    Tyrus Thomas
    Rudy Gay
    Matt Barnes
    K. Martin
    Amare
    John Salmons
    Lebron

    C

    Jermaine Oneal
    B. Miller
    Shaq Oneal
    Brendan Haywood
    Kwame Brown
    Marcus Camby
    Darko Milicic
    Zydrunas Illgauskas
    Fabricio Oberto
    Jamaal Magloire
    Yao Ming
    Tyson Chandler

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  32. Yeah I fully expect Yao to get more money than K-Mart.

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  33. I doubt Yao will opt out. I can't imagine him getting a max deal coming off of these injuries. But if he does opt out, that'd be very interesting for the Heat. If we miss on LeBron, Bosh, and Joe Johnson, I think Yao would be my next choice -- ahead of Rudy Gay or Amare. We could then spend the left-over $8 million on something like Felton, Amir Johnson, and a sign & trade for Raja Bell. $6 million to Felton, $2 million to Amir Johnson, and Cook + a first round pick in a sign & trade for Raja Bell, at $3.5 million.

    Raymond Felton / Chalmers
    Wade / 1st round draft pick
    Raja Bell / 1st round draft pick
    Beasley / Amir Johnson
    Yao / Joel Anthony

    You can definitely win with that, if Yao stays healthy. Ideally we land LeBron, Bosh, or Johnson and don't have to take that risk, but that's a good emergency scenario if Yao actually does opt out.

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  34. Cyrus The Virus said...

    I would switch Yao Ming with K-Mart in expected salary... Yao is worth the max based on how rare his abilities are and how marketable he is.



    That wasnt Kmart's expected salary, thats the range he makes now that he has an option on.

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  35. I think Yao has a golden opportunity to get out of Houston... I'm gonna blog about it. I know you guys have probably heard my conspiracy theory before, but for those who haven't heard...

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  36. Basically if Yao opts out, he won be getting more than Kmart cause theres no way K mart is opting out of that contract.

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  37. Yao is an interestiong option, one that I would only go after if the deal includes team option years or some buyout clause. Regardless if you do it, you have to get more of a solid backup for an insurance policy than Joel. I personally dont want Joel to be anything more than the 3rd center on any team we put together, but also I think with Yao, we wont be paying him an absurd amount of money so I think we can afford a good backup and do better than FeltoI (not that I ont like felton) or Bell in the starting lineup. We should have more money left over than that and if we are going to get Bell, I would prefer to go cheaper and start Wright at sf as the designated defender. Bell is also coming off season ending surgery.

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